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If you are fired for performance reasons will banks still pay severance packages?  Read all comments »

As ever, it looks like banks have waited until Q4 before slashing headcount in a manner that in any way approximates to the fall in their revenues. So, if you’re one of the people let go in the months to come, will you have any right to a portion of this year’s bonus?

Sadly, the answer is probably no. Despite a promising article in this week’s Financial News, which seems to suggest that pro-rated bonuses are a definite possibility, employment lawyers say this is emphatically not the case.

“Legal entitlement to a pro-rated bonus following redundancy is news to me,” says Jane Mann, head of employment law at Fox Williams. “Most banks have so-called ‘killer clauses’ in their contracts which absolve them from the need to pay bonuses to redundant staff,” she adds.

Mann says these so-called killer clauses are typically worded along the lines of: “The employee will not be entitled to a bonus unless he or she is in employment on the bonus payment date, and not under notice either given or received.”

Although most banks include these clauses in their contracts, Mann says some big firms do voluntarily pay pro-rated bonuses to axed staff. She declines to say which ones, though.

James Davies, an employment partner at law firm Lewis Silkin, says the only way you could contest deprivation of a bonus following redundancy would be to prove you were only made redundant to avoid paying the bonus. “That’s not a very credible argument when banks are cutting so many people,” he muses.

The only course of action is for a senior banker with deep pockets to take a bank to the High Court and dispute the legality of the killer clause. This nearly happened in 2007, when Oliver Takacs, a trader at Barclays, tried to take his employer to court for failing to pay a bonus after dismissing him. The case was never heard because Barclays settled out of court.

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Duncan, Capital Markets,  Tue 11 Nov 08

I sincerely hope every Weakest Link gets fired the day before bonus day and leaves with nothing. Goodbye and good riddance.

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Inauspicious hunter, Research,  Tue 11 Nov 08

Duncan,

Congratulations on your well thought out and balanced comment. I do hope you remember those words when you turn 40 and are no longer competitive in a global job market...then perhaps you will be fortunate enough to meet the same fate.

What a very silly and ignorant thing to say.

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exLehman, Risk Management,  Tue 11 Nov 08

Isn't this from last year ? ;-)

If not I suggest just uploading all of Nov 07's redundancy articles. They will still be relevant!

I was let out of Lehmans - its been great ever since

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Alex, Equities,  Tue 11 Nov 08

Is there really anyone in the industry naive enough to think redundancy has anything to do with performance?!

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roger26, Capital Markets,  Tue 11 Nov 08

hi

I have a quick question about that. If you are fired for performance reasons will banks still pay severance packages?

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Sarah, Editor, eFinancialCareers, HR & Recruitment,  Tue 11 Nov 08

We have run this kind of thing in the past, but are covering it again on the basis that a) we may have new readers and b) people might have forgotten what was said previously.

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jonnybgood,  Wed 12 Nov 08

The only time you will be entitled to a payment after you are made redundant is if your contract says you are paid commission. Commission mustlegally be paid out to you. Bonuses are discretionary.

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STI, Accounting,  Wed 12 Nov 08

there are 2 types of bonuses - contractual or non-contractual - pretty much self explainatory...

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